Outside the Government 17: K-9

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Let’s start with the salient and strange fact: there exist people in the world who have watched this. This is an underlying truth of everything that exists in the world of greater media. Somebody’s seen it. Actually, in many ways the stranger and more salient fact is that something like six thousand people are going to read an essay on K-9, the Australian K-9 spinoff that is why the character vanished from The Sarah Jane Adventures for most of Season Four. And some number of those people are going to eventually pay money for a book containing this essay, or pledge money to a Kickstarter to help fund the writing of similarly arcane essays. To quote a similarly arcane object of media, these things’ existence is possible, but not very likely. So why does K-9 exist? For the same reason The Web of Fear exists: people thought they could make some money.

We are, however, at a sort of cultural end here. This is a deeply remote object. It exists and had some traceable impact on the world, and it did in fact come off of Doctor Who, and that’s the sort of thing we make sure to look at here. But in many ways that is all one can do: look at this thing. It passed through the world, and that is worth understanding. Because this thing is dead and sterile. Its Wikipedia article, in 2014, still proclaims with some measure of confidence that it is coming back. 

This does not appear to be true. Back in 2012 there were murmurings of a second season. There doesn’t seem to be any particular movement on that. The series’ official Facebook page - which is seriously about the only place anything about its current life is documented - reveals that its co-creator, Paul Tams, is currently running a Kickstarter for his and Bob Baker’s latest children’s television series Marti, starring a superhero meerkat. This Kickstarter actually launched at about the same time as mine, looking for £20,000 to create a pilot episode of this series. At the time of writing, it has so far raised £139 from five backers. There are still one hundred positions in the closing credits still open for backers. You can get a DVD of an exclusive behind-the-scenes production information for £15 on this Kickstarter, or, at least, you can if it funds. We’ve got til May 31st to make it happen, and for my part, I’m backing because that making-of DVD is going to be one of the most remote and minor objects of Doctor Who history, and frankly, I wanna upload it to a torrent site. So make that £162. (Paul Tams, for his part, has only ever backed one Kickstarter, for 21st Century Tank Girl, which raised £174,130 on April 30th. That’s kind of exciting, and I wish I’d heard about it in time to back it, although why there’s no ebook baffles me. Make a damn PDF, sell it for ten quid. You’re leaving money on the table. You’ll make up way more money than the two sales you’re gonna lose to piracy.) 

So what we have is a thing that first aired on Scandinavian television in January of 2010, a few weeks after Tennant’s regeneration into Matt Smith, after a premiere of the first episode on Halloween of 2009 in the UK (so right around Waters of Mars), and finally made it to the UK starting on April 3rd, 2010 - that is, the same day as The Eleventh Hour - on Disney XD. There it ran twice weekly until May 23rd, then returned for a basically weekly run in October, airing episodes that had by then also aired in Australia, where it was produced. It seems to have run on Channel 5 towards the end of 2010/beginning of 2011. That’s during the interregnum before Channel 4 and Channel 5 Big Brother, if it’s a more useful dating system for you. In the US, it ran on a tiny digital cable station devoted to detective shows that replaced Trio in 2006 under the name Sleuth, before relaunching as Cloo in 2011. 

It was announced back in 2006, off the back of the character’s return in School Reunion, which is why K-9’s appearances on Doctor Who have been so sporadic - as Bob Baker, who still owns the copyright to the character for writing The Invisible Enemy, which, I remind you in case you have forgotten, is absolutely and horribly unwatchable, though if you for some strange reason do enjoy it you’ll be happy to know Big Finish is releasing a sequel story in August called Revenge of the Swarm, starring Sylvester McCoy, Sophie Aldred, and Philip Olivier with John Leeson voicing The Nucleus of the Swarm. Subscribers get more.

Entertainingly, what Baker doesn’t own is the physical design of K-9, which is the BBC’s since they’re the ones who mounted The Invisible Enemy. So after a brief and context-free scene in the first episode K-9 “regenerates” (har-har) into a new chassis, suffers total amnesia as to his past, but remains voiced by John Leeson for the other twenty-five episodes of this. That’s nearly eleven hours of television if you’re inclined to watch it, and it’s still for sale in the US iTunes store for just $18.99. It’s not on Netflix or Hulu, but there is a DVD for sale on Amazon for $21.98. Used from $12.70, and frequently bought with The Visitation. Most people go on to buy The Sarah Jane Adventures, which, despite K-9’s four and a half star rating from eleven customer reviews (“I enjoyed the series for what it was an alternate take on a classic character from Doctor Who, but do not expect classic Doctor Who here,” raves R. Clay, in a five star review 24 of 29 people have found helpful.) is probably the correct call.

The concept had been developed and shopped around by Baker and Tams since 1997, though funding never came through until the character made a return on Doctor Who, at which point a motley crew of international production companies put together funding. These were Disney Europe, Park Entertainment, Stewart & Wall Entertainment, and Screen Australia. Disney Europe is what you’d expect. UK-based Park Entertainment is “a worldwide entertainment consultant” and a “distributor and sales agent for independently produced feature films and television programs,” and also produced Bob the Butler, starring Tom Green, Brooke Shields, and Simon Callow. (Also unavailable on Netflix, but $1.99 to rent on Amazon Instant Video. Four stars, thirty-eight reviews. 43% on Rotten Tomatoes.) Screen Australia is an Australian government agency that provides production funds for the Australian film industry. And Stewart & Wall are an Australian production company who have also made The Shapies and the TV movie Beauty and the Beast, starring Estella Warren, best known as Daena from Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes

The series is a familiar sort of children’s television - a group of four characters that closely mirror what TV Tropes calls the Five-Man Band, in which “The Big Guy” has been swapped out for K-9. It’s set in futuristic London, in a semi-dystopian world in which they mostly fight The Department, a sort of banal and routinely evil Torchwood-like organization that captures aliens and alien technology. There’s loads of odd plots - the scientist character, Alistair Gryffen - has somehow lost his wife and children and is trying to find them in space and time. The main character, Starkey, is a homeless and on-the-run rebel. The girl one’s mother works for the bad guys. And so on.

For the purposes of Doctor Who, the most interesting episode is “Angel of the North,” which aired on October 30th, 2010 in the UK, between Death of the Doctor and The Empty Planet. This is the only episode to be written solo by Bob Baker (he coauthored another with Tams), with the bulk of episodes by an Australian pair, Shane Krause and Shayne Armstrong, who seem to have done most of the development on the series, which departed massively from the description Baker and Tams originally gave in 2007. 

The episode opens in a frozen northern base not unlike The Tenth Planet or The Seeds of Doom, where a man appearing in exactly one scene is attacked by a monster, not unlike countless stories. The scientist character, Gryffen, begins detecting some sort of signal or phenomenon from this northern base, which turns out to be a crashed alien spaceship referred to as the Fallen Angel. Gryffen and K-9 deduce that it is a part of the, and allow me to consult my notes here, which is to say, some Wikipedia articles nobody has gotten around to nominating for deletion yet, STM, which seems to be a space-time machine that transported K-9 from somewhere or other. (In interviews, Bob Baker has said that this is K-9 Mark I, last seen in The Invasion of Time, so presumably from the period where the War Doctor held out against the Deathsmiths of Goth for a decade in the Siege of Planet Fourteen.) Gryffen attempts to convince the Department to give him access to a virtual reality suit to help him overcome his agoraphobia so he can investigate, as K-9 declines to.

Unfortunately Inspector Thorne, who looks oddly like Tony Abbott, hears about his request and proceeds to kidnap him to claim the unit for himself. While collecting the unit, Gryffen discovers a bunch of opened alien pods, which Starkey and K-9 discover to be the Korven, the series in-house villains. Everybody escapes, but it’s revealed that the STM is Korven technology, and thus far too dangerous to use. But beyond that, the component that served as the MacGuffin for all the running through corridors turns out to have some sort of connection to K-9. 

It is not well made, although there are moments of vague competence, much like the recently cancelled American remake of The Tomorrow People. Some people watched it, but not very. Presumably Bob Baker got a nice paycheck for writing bewilderingly not-of-its time children’s telly sci-fi on the back of relatively little work and a duff Doctor Who story he wrote thirty-seven years ago. Which is a happy ending, I suppose, though a bit of a blow for The Sarah Jane Adventures, which consequently lost the wonderful humor of K-9 and Mr. Smith snarking at each other. (K-9 makes only two more appearances, the first in the season premiere, the second in the Gareth Roberts/Clayton Hickman-penned season finale, which one assumes they had quite a bit of fun with.) That’s probably it’s biggest impact in the world, although one imagines someday there’ll be a Faction Paradox short story about it.


Also, if the Kickstarter hits $10k I’ll totally write a fanfic about A Wild Endeavour. It’ll probably have Faction Paradox in it. And a tin dog. It’s a present for unnoun. Unnoun is canon now. 

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Douglas McDonald 2 years, 9 months ago

The most astonishing thing about this entry is that you know what Tony Abbott looks like.

I don't know whether to feel touched or horrified that people outside Australia know who Tony Abbott is.

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Alex Antonijevic 2 years, 9 months ago

Our not-so-secret shame.

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

I bought the DVD to write poems for my upcoming Doctor Who poetry book, and I have to admit I rather liked it. A lot of the show falls into the tropes of American children's television, which is ironic, and one of the most interesting things about it is comparing the structure of each episode to that of the Sarah Jane Adventures.

Philip hit if on the head with the tropes it falls into, and there are lots more, as well as the general filming and lighting style, which can be seen all over American Kids TV. I'd say the biggest difference between K-9 and SJA is that K-9 from its inception was viewed as a kids show, and SJA was viewed as being a sci-fi drama that had to keep some of its edgier content under control.

But lets be honest here: I think I have a sweet spot for any show with an episode where a character who gets arrested for trying to stop police brutality. So, if you're going to watch a random episode I'd recommend "Sirens of Ceres", which was my favorite. I think I found the stuff dealing with the evil government organization far more interesting than the space monsters bits, probably because at those points it felt like the show actually had something to say, and said it.

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

Also, regarding "A Wild Endeavour"....

...What a strange idea. I can't say I particularly like the idea of a Doctor Who prequel, but even though the Kickstarter failed they seem to be barreling on with the idea. Huh.

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Multiple Ducks 2 years, 9 months ago

And now I've just found the actor's (Jared Robinsen, for the curious) demo reel on IMDB and spent the whole time twitchily giggling at the prospect of a bizarre Murdochian Tony Abbott biopic starring him. Because, at this point, what else can you do?

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Lewis Christian 2 years, 9 months ago

Just in case anyone's interested, I interviewed Bob Baker in February 2014 in which he told me, regarding another K9 series: "Paul and I are in process of getting another series going. Hope it doesn’t take another eleven years!"

Full interview.

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David Anderson 2 years, 9 months ago

Thoughts on the ethics of creator-ownership in multi-author collaborative worlds?

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David Anderson 2 years, 9 months ago

(Because on the one hand, Siegel and Schuster. On the other hand, nobody wants Ditko insisting that Spiderman serve only as a mouthpiece for Rand propaganda.)

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prandeamus 2 years, 9 months ago

I followed the link to "wild endeavo[u]r. I won't do that again.

I mean, it's a free world, and kudos for having the guts to try, but this is a project that virtually no one wants to see. I mean, the academy days of you-know-who and the-guy-with-the beard? No, a thousand times no. Divided Loyalties raised to the n-th power.

They have also made the classic mistake of stating the size of the Doctor Who fan base (how do yo measure that anyway?) and extrapolating the potential funding from that. That's so full of unwarranted assumptions it will collapse under the mass of its own uncertainty.

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Seeing_I 2 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, please, just no. What the Doctor was up to before he left Gallifrey, and the exact nature of the Doctor / Master friendship / rivalry is really really really better left to our imaginations. Why bother pouring so much into fanfic anyway? Go create something new, jeez!

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prandeamus 2 years, 9 months ago

And remember all the copyright restrictions back in the early 90s with BBV and its ilk? The BBC lawyers would lean on them about Domine/Alice looking too much like Doctor/Ace, and that was when the BBC didn't really care about the property, and the US wasn't really in the picture either. It's unthinkable now. They could burn up their entire budget ten times over fighting legal claims.

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T. Hartwell 2 years, 9 months ago

I find it funny how laughably terrible the award tiers are...Like at $35, you're basically paying for the privilege of sending them a prop to use. Or the highest tier ($7500), you pay to have a minor speaking role (saving them the problem of having to pay that actor), *but* you have to still provide for your own travel and accommodations.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, nothing above $500 ever got any backers.

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Alan 2 years, 9 months ago

All I want to know is this -- was the theme song as awesome as the one Ian Levine wrote for "K-9 and Company"?

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Jesse 2 years, 9 months ago

This was funny. Thank you.

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Adam Riggio 2 years, 9 months ago

Re. A Wild Endeavour. The female character's name is Sydney Lambert. Good God.

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Bennett 2 years, 9 months ago

No, but then nothing is as awesome as the theme song for K-9 and Company.

Here is the opening title sequence. It's the audio equivalent of a Silence - once you stop listening you cannot remember what you heard.

Watching it, you automatically want to dub the K-9 and Company theme over the titles to see how it works. Fortunately, this is the Internet and you can rely on someone else having already done that.

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encyclops 2 years, 9 months ago

This is a thing now. There was Caprica. Now there's gonna be Gotham. It's never a good idea.

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BerserkRL 2 years, 9 months ago

The DVD carries the tagline "WHO's a good dog?" -- the capitalisation sneaking in a presumably legally/contractually forbidden reference to the parent show.

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BerserkRL 2 years, 9 months ago

I'm not a fan of IP. Its defenders say it's the only way to ensure that writers and artists get paid, but in practice it means they get paid a pittance while big companies rake in monopoly rents. And there are other models for getting paid, like the kickstarter approach -- especially practical in the internet age, but viable before that: Herbert Spencer's ten-volume Synthetic Philosophy in the late 19th century was essentially funded by the kickstarter method (with some help from J. S, Mill).

So in a world without IP, Siegel & Schuster couldn't forbid anyone else to publish Superman stories, but no one else could forbid Siegel & Schuster either. And there are always fans who want to see, and will be willing to fund, whatever the original creators are doing.

So let Quesada publish his Spider-man stories where Peter makes a deal with Mephisto and gives up M.J., and let Straczynski publish his stories where that specifically doesn't happen, and let Ditko publish stories where Spider-man gives speeches on Objectivist epistemology, and let Frank Miller publish stories where Spider-man is hulking and taciturn and beats people up a lot, and let Alan Moore publish stories where Spider-man is a left-wing anarchist who draws his powers from magick, and let fans take their pick.

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BerserkRL 2 years, 9 months ago

I did notice that the opening theme has a couple of soaring-and-dropping movements that are clearly intended to echo Doctor Who.

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quislibet 2 years, 9 months ago

Caprica was actually kind of interesting in its own right, although it was admittedly less successful as a prequel. To the extent that it DID work as a prequel, it was because they framed it as BG: the Previous Generation, rather than Your Favorite Characters Back Before the Thing that Made Us Interested in Them Happened.

(That said, I have been vaguely interested in checking out Blood and Chrome.)

EDIT: Vaguely on topic, to post this I have to prove I'm not a robot. WHAT IF I DON'T KNOW?

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quislibet 2 years, 9 months ago

(Also on topic in a larger sense, to prove I'm not a robot, I had to type the word "affirmative.")

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Lo-Fi Explosion 2 years, 9 months ago

The BBC actually wanted to do this, a "Young Doctor Who" series, but Davies stopped them and gave them The Sarah Jane Adventures instead.

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Lo-Fi Explosion 2 years, 9 months ago

This is the best entry ever.

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Author 2 years, 9 months ago

Oh, Doctor Who poetry. I had a thought about that awhile ago, and I'm half-inclined to act on that. I mean, poets have been writing poems about mythology and cultural concepts for centuries, why not do some poetry inspired by Doctor Who or another pop culture icon? At least if it's original and abstract enough, inspired by the work itself yet not totally reliant upon it, then it might have some merit.

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encyclops 2 years, 9 months ago

I owned (probably still do, minus perhaps the cover) a copy of a 20th anniversary (? some sort of celebration from that general time) magazine, which included such indispensables as an episode guide leading up to "The Twin Dilemma" (or at least the announcement of Colin Baker as the next Doctor...the memory cheats) and explanations of how the title sequences were made.

At the back of it was a...rrrrgh..."poem," an ode to the show. I can't remember who wrote it, but stretches of it are permanently engraved on my memory thanks to my brain's annoying habit of setting doggerel to music.

Shockingly, if someone has transcribed this poem for immortality on the web, Google either doesn't know about it or can't find it based on the (on-topic) line "WOTAN computer and K-9 pet."

The bar's pretty low, is what I'm saying.

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encyclops 2 years, 9 months ago

...oh, hey, it looks like you can read it yourself if you own the Enlightenment Special Edition DVD, or just have 20 bucks burning a hole in your pocket. It's this thing: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_20th_Anniversary_Special

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Eric Gimlin 2 years, 9 months ago

So help me, I just ordered the DVD for this. If for nothing else, to mess with some of the people borrowing my Doctor Who DVD's.

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encyclops 2 years, 9 months ago

I enjoyed the episodes of Caprica I watched. I just thought it was a flawed concept.

Some genre fans seem to have this idea that if they like a story, it stands to reason that what comes before it and after is is certain to be interesting as well. In fact, much of the time it's the case that if the original story had been that interesting before it started or after it ended, it would have started earlier or ended later. Or: what quislibet said.

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

and she is a barrista at Hartnell organic coffee...

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

This is my book's finished Kickstarter if you were curious. The art for the book is taking a long time, so it hasn't come out yet, but the text is all done....
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arcbeatle/an-eloquence-of-time-and-space-a-doctor-who-50th-p

I hope I raise the bar SLIGHTLY higher! :P

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Philip Sandifer 2 years, 9 months ago

I looked for a nice high-res image with that slogan, because it is so wonderfully awful, but I couldn't find one in the amount of time I allocated to this effort.

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Philip Sandifer 2 years, 9 months ago

To be fair, so does Sarah Jane Adventures. The theme song is blissfully forgettable, although I love that various things are labeled using the font Chicago, which was a font developed for the original 1984 Macintosh because it couldn't do grayscale and so to gray out menu options had to simply delete half the pixels, requiring a Susan Kare to develop a font that was still readable with half the pixels missing.

To use this font in 2010 as a signifier for "technologically advanced" is, to me at least, hilarious.

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Daibhid C 2 years, 9 months ago

I watched some of this, and don't remember it being completely dreadful, although it's not like I ever thought "Gosh, K9's on today, I must make sure I don't miss it!"

I'm not going to try and find them right now, because it's past midnight and I've got college in the morning, but ISTR some entries on Jon Blum's LJ that suggest he puts this in the "surpisingly good for what it is" category at the very least.

In particular, I remember him liking the Department goons, who are distinguishable from your bogstandard faceless dystopian robot guards because, with the sort of beautiful incongruity Doctor Who is so good at, they all talk like Dixon of Dock Green. Which is, y'know a bit "Hey kids! 'friendly bobby on the beat' = 'fascist robo-thug'!"

(I'm not saying Baker, Krause and Armstrong had ambitions to write a Doctor Who spin-off that would bring down the government, but they at least not vaguely in that direction.)

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BerserkRL 2 years, 9 months ago

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91vbzFzNUdL._SL1500_.jpg

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Shane Cubis 2 years, 9 months ago

Haha - I had the same reaction! Who would've thought he'd pop up in a discussion of K-9?

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Iain Coleman 2 years, 9 months ago

Oh for fuck's sake.

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Daru 2 years, 9 months ago

Poetry book looks great acrbeatle - keep us updated here on its release.

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Daru 2 years, 9 months ago

Exactly what you say encyclops. If the story had been that good it would already have begun from that point! Mystery exists in stories for a reason. Explain it all and imagination is stifled.

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Daru 2 years, 9 months ago

Bloody hell.

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Daru 2 years, 9 months ago

A Wild Endeavour, worst idea ever - apart from K-9 and that meerkat! Tried watching K-9 and it just gave me no motivation to watch it. A whole bunch of ideas just bolted on together, all drawn together apparently from a desire to cash in on a product that really belonged in the shows it spawned from and were more closely connected to. Brilliantly funny article!

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iWill 2 years, 9 months ago

I'm not the only one who does Doctor Who poems, then. I'm currently at the stage of haikus, but one day I may finally get around to my true ambition: an epic poem based on 'The Twin Dilemma'.

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elvwood 2 years, 9 months ago

Yes - it got me chuckling out loud.

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dirkmalcolm.com 2 years, 9 months ago

"All of your support, both through the Kickstarter and through online posts and comments have demonstrated to the money men, the "suits" that this is worth pursuing"

They barely made 1% of their KS target.

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elvwood 2 years, 9 months ago

I actually enjoy some fanwank. I like a bit of nostalgia, and I also have no problem with Big Finish doing a sequel to The Invisible Enemy (despite the fact that it was the serial that tipped me into being a non-Who-watcher when I was a teenager) because sometimes people can find the gold in a concept, add something original, and discard the dross. After all, the idea behind Spare Parts is pure fanwank - "let's do Genesis of the Cybermen!" - and look how that turned out.

But this... this looks like absolutely everything that's justifiably mocked about fanwank, with an extra helping of winceworthiness. It's the kind of thing Mark Gatiss would do if he lacked brains, taste and talent and just let his inner fanboy loose with no restraint. Oh, and was working in the US television setup.

(Also, am I the only one who saw the title and thought this was going to be a crossover with Morse?)

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elvwood 2 years, 9 months ago

I watched some of this on Channel 5 with my children, though I drifted away after a while and only remember a couple of storylines. May and Isaac were at the top end of the age range - 8 and 10 - and on first viewing they liked it about as much as SJA. They didn't get through it a second time, and we then realised that on first viewing they'd liked it about as much as they liked SJA having watched each episode of the latter about five times.

One thing that struck me was, why didn't they set it in Australia? Rather than having London (which had been overexposed in the parent program anyway) populated by bizarrely-accented locals and Australian immigrants, they could have had a nice touch of the exotic for the overseas market and had the actors use their native accents. That would have helped, though it still would have needed more to make it a real success.

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Daru 2 years, 9 months ago

I have a poet friend who has written an epic poem based on The Web Planet and the idea of Spectacle. It is truly an awe inspiring poem just riffing on the influences from the story, not working with it directly. So fab to hear about more folk doing this.

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

:) glad to see some fellow poets, as well as some enthusiasm. I'll make sure to let you guys know when it finally is released.

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arcbeatle 2 years, 9 months ago

yeah..... If that is all it takes to show some "suits" that they should throw money at someone, I need to talk to more "suits".

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Lewis Christian 2 years, 9 months ago

I still chuckle that many TV shows and productions still use "old TV static" as an effect, even in the modern world where that doesn't happen. Mind you, something like a "buffering" symbol wouldn't be as effective.

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Lewis Christian 2 years, 9 months ago

The only part of K9 I watched, out of curiosity, was the 'regeneration' sequence. Even that was plain odd.

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Alan 2 years, 9 months ago

Holy crap! The Levine theme was BETTER than what that dull "Hearts of Space" music they actually used!

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Alan 2 years, 9 months ago

To be fair, the basic premise of "The Invisible Enemy" -- a telepathic, mind-controlling virus transmitted through eye contact -- is genuinely both thought-provoking and terrifying. It was the refusal of Baker and Martin to explore that premise in favor of comedy German doctors, an extended and pointless homage to "Fantastic Voyage," and finally exploding pornographic shrimp that ruined the story.

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encyclops 2 years, 9 months ago

Actually, Alan, you're making Baker and Martin's choices sound way more interesting than the premise. It's been at least 20 years since I've watched "The Invisible Enemy," so I don't remember it too clearly, but I imagine the actual problems were dialogue, story structure, and visual effects.

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BerserkRL 2 years, 9 months ago

I wonder what youngsters these days make of the opening of the original Outer Limits series if they happen to see it.

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Daibhid C 2 years, 9 months ago

So, if anyone's interested, I found those Blum posts I was talking about. Well, a couple of them.

There's this "both good in different ways" comparison with SJA, a post called The Soul of a Tin Dog and the one I badly paraphrase above, which seems to actually be a minor side-note in his review of The Beast Below, in which he doesn't exactly say what I thought he said.

Of course, these posts also refer to the fact Blum was writing a spec script for the show at the time, so if you want to be cynical about it...

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Alan 2 years, 9 months ago

An homage to "Fantastic Voyage" might work, but not with a microscopic Doctor and Leela casually walking along the full-sized Doctor's neural ganglia and talking as though there was air inside the Doctor's brain definitely did not.

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Aylwin 2 years, 9 months ago

When there is no more room in the internet, ideas like this will walk the Earth.

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ferret 2 years, 9 months ago

I don't understand this Kickstarter - if they get funding and produce even one episode, won't the BBC shut them down and sue them for everything they're worth?

How do they hope to get away with it?

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arcbeatle 1 year, 11 months ago

In an update no one cares about, I did finish all of the show, and if you're going to watch an episode, watch the episode "Robot Gladiators" because despite the title, and the synopsis ("There are robot gladiators.") its the most fun the series gets, and maybe the only time the show realizes exactly what kind of show it is, rather than is trying to be.

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