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Elizabeth Sandifer created Eruditorum Press. She’s not really sure why she did that, and she apologizes for the inconvenience. She currently writes Last War in Albion, a history of the magical war between Alan Moore and Grant Morrison. She used to write TARDIS Eruditorum, a history of Britain told through the lens of a ropey sci-fi series. She also wrote Neoreaction a Basilisk, writes comics these days, and has ADHD so will probably just randomly write some other shit sooner or later.Support Elizabeth on Patreon.

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  1. Wm Keith
    February 24, 2012 @ 1:35 am

    In my wild and reckless youth I was roadie for a group of fanzine publishers.

    In my garage is a (big) box containing quite a few (too many, the second print-run was over-optimistic) copies of Lance Parkin's "Chronology", his first version of "AHistory", which reconciles all the 63/89 TV episodes and has various additional chapters on Dalek history, UNIT dating, etc (but which doesn't examine anything not shown on TV).

    It's great fun to read and anyone who is willing to sell their soul for a copy is welcome to email me on wmkeithmatrix at [insert here the name of the extremely popular email service operated by google].

    This isn't a commercial message because I don't intend to charge anything except postage and packing, but, Phil, if this is not the sort of "comment" that you want on your blog, I shall not sulk if you delete it. I'll just go into my garage and spend the weekend reading fanzines. Same as usual, in fact.

    Incidentally, folks, I really am not Lance Parkin.

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  2. Anton B
    February 24, 2012 @ 1:44 am

    'No matter how much one loves the image of the Doctor as just a small little man who wanders the universe and does good things the fact that he is narratively at the center of Doctor Who means that the universe of Doctor Who will always revolve around him. Anything that doesn’t give the Doctor an implicit role in the nature of the Time Lords is simply fighting against the fundamental gravity of Doctor Who as a series'

    It had to happen. Finally you post something I fundamentally disagree with. I much prefer the Doctor as a little man against the evil/system in the British literary traditition e.g. 1984's Winston Smith, The Prisoner's Number Six, Brazil's Tuttle/Buttle, LOTR's Frodo/Bilbo etc. In fact I can't think of a decent piece of writing where the main character is actually implicit in the grand scheme rather than fighting/running away from it.I don't see why Doctor Who needs to approach this hubris.He may think he's the centre of the universe sometimes but it doesn't necessarily have to be proved.

    'I don’t want to go too far into the comparison of Morrison’s Final Crisis with the nearly identical Season 4 finale of Doctor Who that was airing at nearly the exact same time, mostly because I intend for a Pop Between Realities on that point when we get there, but suffice it to say that the plot of that comic is a narrative collapse a la the Chase'

    The above paragraph however redeemed you. I'm SO looking forward to that post. I thought I was the only one to notice the parallels between Morrison's FC and finale of Who season's 4 and the whole of season 5, putting it down to some kind of zeigiesty voodoo. If you bring Morrison's The Invisibles into this too my life will be complete.

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  3. Spacewarp
    February 24, 2012 @ 2:34 am

    I've always maintained that attempts to reconcile different "eras" of Doctor Who with each-other are doomed to failure, leading to what amounts to endless futile fan battles between the twin evils of Retcon and Canon. The programme continually reinvents itself, sometimes gradually over two or three seasons as directors and script-editors change, sometimes startlingly suddenly, as between Hartnell and Troughton or Troughton and Pertwee.

    In particular "canon" annoys me immensely, as fans who insist on the format of Doctor Who being endlessly variable and wide open to change will then fight tooth and nail when anything contradicts what has happened twenty years previously. The architects of the new series are obviously aware of this, and have been brave enough to address it (incurring minor fan wrath in both cases) – RTD with his "time can be rewritten" comments, and Moffat with the Crack's more blatent wholesale erasure of almost everything (or at least anything that gets in the way of a good story).

    In fact even they both recognise and embrace the inherent contradiction of a series that continually changes while staying the same by insisting that "this is the same man who was portrayed by William Hartnell in 1963".

    Hence the Doctor can be both a little man wandering the universe, and a larger mythic figure of hidden import, at the same time. Depending entirely on what the production team want to do at the time.

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  4. Andrew Hickey
    February 24, 2012 @ 3:22 am

    Anton, you're definitely not the only one to have noticed that. Morrison himself posted a thing on his blog (which was unfortunately subscriber-only and has now been deleted) at the time pointing out the similarities between the season 4 finale and Final Crisis.

    Philip – Teatime Brutality still exists, but as a tumblr ( http://teatimebrutality.tumblr.com ). He only rarely posts longform stuff there – it's mostly the usual tumblr stuff – but when he does it's as good as ever.

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  5. Dr. Happypants
    February 24, 2012 @ 3:32 am

    "The mixture of scandalous and salacious content with the fundamental safety of Doctor Who is as gentle a gradient to tackle emerging sexuality as they come – like having a copy of Timeframe with its Katy Manning/Dalek photo as your sole piece of pornography (which, for years, I did)."

    Funny story about that: after a relatively sheltered, conservative, and somewhat parochial upbringing–which included lots of Doctor Who–the Virgin books really helped to de-Puritanize me in exactly the way you describe. Russell Davies' "Damaged Goods" is actually one of the first things during my awkward teenaged years that got me questioning my sexual orientation, so you could say…

    The New Adventures turned me gay.

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  6. Jesse
    February 24, 2012 @ 5:28 am

    RTD with his "time can be rewritten" comments, and Moffat with the Crack's more blatent wholesale erasure of almost everything (or at least anything that gets in the way of a good story).

    Ah, but those allow alterations to Canon within the rules set by Canon. They're different from simply contradicting the past, and indeed serve as a sort of meta-fanwank that makes it easier for viewers who care about such things to justify any contradictions they've spotted.

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  7. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 24, 2012 @ 5:43 am

    The Invisibles is guaranteed a Pop Between Realities.

    I don't think one's preferences about the Doctor matters much to this issue – I largely prefer a smaller Doctor as well. And I think it's telling that none of the characters you mention are characters from a long-form serialized work – the closest is The Prisoner, and even that's explicitly conceived as a finite story. The problem, for me, really is one of gravity.

    The Doctor is the main character in the story. Any story in which the Time Lords at large feature is thus going to be one where the Doctor is the most important Time Lord for those ninety minutes, and furthermore one in which he probably saves the Time Lords from some catastrophe or another. Already we have the Doctor as a former President of Gallifrey who solved the assassination of one of his predecessors, stopped the destruction of the planet, and to boot cleaned up that whole Omega mess while violating the First Law of Time. What Time Lord short of Rassilon himself is going to be more important than the Doctor at this point? And the situation can only deteriorate further.

    And that's the crux of the problem – the Doctor, for the audience, is the most important of the Time Lords and the plot of any story involving both will tacitly confirm that. Whether or not it's actually a good story. About the only solution is the one Davies hit on – make the Doctor the most important Time Lord because he's the end of the rest of them as opposed to the beginning, thus allowing you to draw a line under it and move on.

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  8. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 24, 2012 @ 5:58 am

    I'm certainly uninterested in reconciliation on the level of plot elements. That's just a boring game of trying to spin conspiracy theories for the sake of it – though in its more madly over the top versions such as AHistory it has a certain charm. What interests me more is the more philosophical shifts and the question of whether the concept of Doctor Who is actually bounded, and if so, by what. If Doctor Who can reinvent itself totally as often as it has, what is there that can fairly be called Doctor Who?

    I do think that question has an answer. But I think that treating that answer as reconciling eras misses the mark slightly. I'd suggest a better term than "reconcile" is "translate." It's possible to translate from Davison to Virgin NA and visa versa.

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  9. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 24, 2012 @ 6:04 am

    Andrew Hickey has won the comments section for the day by linking me to Teatime Brutality's new version. Everyone else may now go home.

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  10. Aaron
    February 24, 2012 @ 6:05 am

    Rats. I was hoping you were going to cover more like 40-45 NAs, and 30-35 EDAs. Oh well, I'm still super excited for us to get to them.

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  11. Andrew Hickey
    February 24, 2012 @ 6:06 am

    I've been trying to write a reply to the bit about the sentience of the DC Universe, but it's coming in at 1200 words so far, plus links for references, and I've not yet got to what I want to say, so I think I'll just post it to my own blog when it's done.

    If no-one objects I'll link it in these comments.

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  12. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 24, 2012 @ 6:09 am

    Not only do I not object, I'll actually remember to claw your post out of the fucking spam filter as soon as I see it. (I looked for a setting to turn it off, since it has only correctly identified three spam comments in the entire history of this blog. There is no way to turn it off. Goddammit.)

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  13. Spacewarp
    February 24, 2012 @ 6:13 am

    I agree totally. I believe Doctor Who as a concept/programme/way of life/whatever to be truly unbounded. You only have to look at the audio series "Unbound" to see that absolutely anything is possible. In which case what is there that can be called "Doctor Who"? That's an interesting thought. I'd say the answer is that if we all agree to call it Doctor Who, then that's what it is. Where that leaves fans who refuse to acknowledge that certain aspects AREN'T Doctor Who, I'm not sure. And they do exist of course – the ones who disregard the MAs, the NAs, the TV Movie, the Cushing movies, the Classic and/or the New Series as not part of their own personal "Canon". Which makes one wonder…could someone who disregards everything after "An Unearthly Child" even call themselves a Doctor Who fan? Very probably.

    By the way, I wasn't saying that I attempt to reconcile eras, I don't. I treat the whole thing as what it is, a television programme quite unlike any other. Some bits I like, some I don't, but I don't dislike any of it on principle. I must admit that Davison is my least-watched Doctor but your entry into the Davison era has piqued my interest. I may watch a few more…

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  14. Andrew Hickey
    February 24, 2012 @ 7:45 am

    Here we go then. It's not as thorough an argument as I'd like, because I've trodden a lot of this ground before and get bored easily, and at 1600 words I think it's all my readers will stand, but a partial argument with part of your bit about Morrison:

    http://andrewhickey.info/2012/02/24/on-sentient-universes-the-problem-of-evil-grant-morrison-doctor-who-and-other-such-stuff/

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  15. BerserkRL
    February 24, 2012 @ 9:58 am

    I much prefer the Doctor as a little man against the evil/system in the British literary traditition e.g. 1984's Winston Smith, The Prisoner's Number Six, Brazil's Tuttle/Buttle, LOTR's Frodo/Bilbo etc. In fact I can't think of a decent piece of writing where the main character is actually implicit in the grand scheme rather than fighting/running away from it

    Your example of The Prisoner seems an odd one, since at the end the main character precisely finds out that he's part of the system. (Philip interprets that scene differently, but I disagree.)

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  16. BerserkRL
    February 24, 2012 @ 10:06 am

    could someone who disregards everything after "An Unearthly Child" even call themselves a Doctor Who fan?

    Only the unaired pilot version of "An Unearthly Child" is canonical. The aired version is not canonical, and neither is anything after that. The Doctor and Susan are weirdoes from the 49th century, and their spaceship's door doesn't work. So there!

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  17. Andrew Hickey
    February 24, 2012 @ 10:11 am

    Hmph. Entryist new fans like you, Berserker, really annoy me. Everyone knows that the only real Doctor Who was Bunny Webber's unfilmed script. Once that hack Coburn got his hands on it everything went downhill.

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  18. BerserkRL
    February 24, 2012 @ 10:12 am

    Hoping you are not disconcert, I am Zambian prince dying of spectrox poisoning and request your help transfer five $ million dollars U.S. to your bank account can I trust you, God bless.

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  19. Wm Keith
    February 24, 2012 @ 10:39 pm

    What is canonical in the TV series must be that which is described within the TV series as being canonical.

    So far as I am aware, therefore, canon in Doctor Who is limited to (a) "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville, (b) "The Water Babies" by Charles Kingsley, and (c) "UK Habitats of the Canadian Goose" by HM Stationery Office.

    I have read "Moby Dick" (and I read the climax of the book with awed fascination as Ahab quoted Captain Kirk at the whale).

    I have an unread copy of "The Water Babies" on my Kindle.

    However, so far as I can see, "UK Habitats of the Canadian Goose" has yet to be published.

    But the people of Marb Station called their planet "UK Habitat".

    I think, particularly within the context of "Trial of a Time Lord", this is Robert Holmes slipping us the message that continuity is a wild goose chase.

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  20. Matthew Celestis
    February 25, 2012 @ 1:13 am

    I haven't read Cold Fusion, but I have read The Infinity Doctors. I just loved Patience in that. She is so ethereal, like a lady from a Pre-Raphaelite painting. She is perfect as the Doctor's wife.

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  21. solar penguin
    February 25, 2012 @ 5:30 am

    Read the book, and make a sardonic and self-referential
    comment about the fact that I'm a bit sorry for the book.

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  22. Exploding Eye
    February 25, 2012 @ 5:38 am

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  23. Exploding Eye
    February 25, 2012 @ 5:41 am

    There is a fourth kind of fanwank, a non-continuity-based one – when fan fiction writers forget that the reason they're fans in the first place is because they find pleasure in something relatively simple, straightforward and fun, and attempt to darken and over-complicate it.

    And the problems come when this ethos feeds back into the series itself, and those making it lose sight of what it's all about. Doctor Who was always essentially the little guy standing up for the little guy… even Pertwee at his most arrogant and right wing was still sticking up for the small green planet against the alien hoards.

    But in the late 80s, you had the Cartmel Masterplan, in which the Doctor becomes the arch manipulator, some superbeing from the dawn of time; or the Lonely God from the new series. Conceptually more interesting, perhaps, but it kinda loses touch with why people connect with the idea in the first place, and what draws audiences in and makes them invest in the character.

    And much as I love the two-parter as a whole, I think the climax of Family Of Blood has to be the worst example, turning the Doctor into a tyrannical bully who has to brainwash himself in order not to exact awful vengeance. Again, conceptually interesting, but it loses sight of the fact that we love the Doctor because he stands up to the bullies… that he's compassionate and looks for a diplomatic solution where possible. Seeing our beloved Doctor punishing some low-level gangsters in a way that the Bush administration and Chinese government would baulk at is not a pretty sight.

    See also the Star Wars prequels.

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  24. David Anderson
    February 25, 2012 @ 9:24 am

    Pertwee's Doctor isn't right-wing so much as aristocratic. He's like a cosmic Bertrand Russell (if Bertrand Russell knew Venusian Aikido).

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  25. Stephen
    February 25, 2012 @ 10:39 am

    Hm, 30 Virgin books, 15 BBC ones, and 15 Big Finishes? Sounds like it's time for some wild mass guessing.

    I'll skip guessing Big Finish, as I'm way, way behind on that range, and make the assumption that you won't be doing any novels that primarily feature a previous Doctor.

    So, here goes: for the NAs, I'll guess:
    Timewyrm: Genesys (an interesting misstep, but you get to talk about The Epic of Gilgamesh)
    Timewyrm: Revelation (most important non-TV Who story in terms of the franchise's history)
    Time's Crucible (another no-brainer)
    Warhead (first foray into Cyberpunk)
    Love and War (another no-brainer – for Benny's intro)
    Transit (why wouldn't you tackle the NAs most marmite book?)
    The Pit (because The Three Doctors entry showed you love Blake)
    Lucifer Rising (does interesting things with continuity, and introduces New Ace better than Deceit)
    Birthright (the first Doctor-lite story outside comic strips)
    Blood Heat (it's take on the Pertwee era and Doctor Who and the Cave monsters is interesting)
    The Left-Handed Hummingbird (similarly)
    Conundrum (there's no way you can resist this one)
    Theatre of War (the whole concept is right up your steet)
    All-Consuming Fire (for fun)
    Blood Harvest/Goth Opera (as a single entry)
    First Frontier (the mystery villain done fantastically)
    Set Piece (because of Ace's departure)
    Human Nature (unless you do that alongside the TV story)
    Original Sin (introduction of Chris and Roz)
    Sky Pirates! (because it's just bizarre)
    Head Games (for all that sixth Doctor stuff)
    The Also People (just because it's so good)
    Just War (again, because of its quality)
    Happy Endings (the Five Doctors of the novels)
    Christmas on a Rational Planet (it's Lawrence Miles)
    Damaged Goods (because RTD wrote it)
    So Vile a Sin (Roz written out)
    The Room with no Doors (there's quite a lot here to write about)
    Lungbarrow (you can't not do it)
    The Dying Days (just because)

    The EDAs (a much more difficult selection)
    Alien Bodies (a no-brainer)
    one of John Peel's dalek ones (can't decide whether you'll go for the offensive retcon or the fanwank overload)
    The Scarlet Empress (you'll find it hard to resist doing the Paul Magrs ones)
    Unnatural History (you can't resist such a postmodern book)
    Interference (you've already confirmed this one)
    The Blue Angel (you'll find it difficult to resist)
    The Shadows of Avalon (another obvious choice)
    The Ancestor Cell (the central pivot point of the EDAs)
    The Turing Test (lots and lots to comment on here)
    Father Time (revisiting the 80s will always be fun)
    The Adventuress of Henrietta Street (something this unique shouldn't be passed by)
    The Crooked World (it's a commentary on a whole genre of cartoons)
    Sometime Never… (just for the rewriting of the Doctor's origins)
    The Gallifrey Chronicles (the grand finale of the novels – and it has that line about the canon debate)
    The Infinity Doctors (again, you simply won't be able to resist)

    hopes he hasn't miscounted in compiling his lists

    And, going back to Cold Fusion, one of the reasons I think it's the only multi-Doctor story to really work is because it feels like it's a fifth Doctor story with the seventh Doctor hiding in the background, and also feels like a New Adventures era seventh Doctor story with the fifth Doctor ambling around in the foreground. Plus the whole character contrast thing that you've already pointed out.

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  26. Zapruder 313
    February 25, 2012 @ 11:10 am

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  27. Zapruder 313
    February 25, 2012 @ 11:15 am

    "Only the unaired pilot version of "An Unearthly Child" is canonical. The aired version is not canonical, and neither is anything after that. The Doctor and Susan are weirdoes from the 49th century, and their spaceship's door doesn't work. So there!"

    Actually, BerserkRL, you have pretty much hit on the closest definition of a "canon" of Doctor Who that I will agree to: Everything Until Verity Lambert Leaves is "Real Doctor Who", and everything else that comes after, in whatever medium, is a sequel/retcon/reboot/reimagining.

    Most of it is interesting stuff worth talking about, of course, but the idea that the BBC Wales relaunch is "canon" but Cat's Cradle or Death Comes to TIme somehow aren't seems utterly crazy to me. It's all a sequel/spin off/reboot once Verity leaves: the "real" (read: original) Doctor Who isn't a Time Lord, he's (as you say) a Weirdo From The 49th Century. People who get upset about Looms but not about Time Lords or the Master seem to me to be spectacularly missing the point.

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  28. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 25, 2012 @ 11:57 am

    I'm probably going to not have this selection be guesswork for the readers, simply because these aren't bonus entries – these are me trying to cover an era of the show without derailing the blog for a year, and I want, there, to cover something that there's a rough consensus is a fair representation for what Doctor Who is in that era. So at some point in McCoy there will be a post in which we overtly discuss this. Your initial list is not entirely out of line with my thoughts. At a very, very rough stab of what my sort of "opening bid" in my lists:

    NAs:

    Timewyrm: Exodus (with Genesis dealt with in passing)
    Timewyirm: Revelation (with Apocalypse dealt with in even more passing)
    Cats Cradle: Time's Crucible
    Cat's Cradle: Warhead
    Love and War
    Transit
    The Highest Science
    Deceit
    Lucifer Rising
    White Darkness
    Birthright
    Blood Heat
    Left-Handed Hummingbird
    Conundrum
    No Future
    All-Consuming Fire
    Blood Harvest
    First Frontier
    Warlock
    Set Piece
    Sanctuary
    Human Nature
    Original Sin
    Head Games
    The Also People
    Warchild
    Happy Endings
    Christmas on a Rational Planet
    Damaged Goods
    So Vile a Sin
    The Room With No Doors
    Lungbarrow
    The Dying Days

    Which is 33, a fair stab at "about 30."

    For the EDAs:

    The Eight Doctors
    Vampire Science
    War of the Daleks
    Alien Bodies
    Scarlet Empress
    The Infinity Doctors
    Unnatural History
    Interference
    The Blue Angel
    The Shadows of Avalon
    The Ancestor Cell
    The Burning
    Fear Itself (The blog's final "Time Can Be Rewritten" entry)
    The Adventures of Henrietta Street
    The Gallifrey Chronicles

    But that's a rough opening stab and it'll be, as I said, something I actively solicit discussion on when the time comes.

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  29. Alan
    February 25, 2012 @ 4:36 pm

    Well put. My misgivings about Ten grew into dislike at the end of Family of Blood, and I appreciated the show acknowledging my feelings with Joan's cold dismissal of the Doctor at the end. Her point was completely valid — the Doctor did not want to bear the responsibility of killing the Family of Blood, so he fled to a boy's school in an isolated English village that was completely unprepared for an alien invasion. And after the Family murdered dozens of people, including children, the Doctor punished them for his misguided kindness by torturing them for eternity. I've often thought that Ten might well be the Doctor who comes closest to the Valyard in temperament, and one of the things I like about Eleven is how conscious he is of his own destructive potential.

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  30. Matthew Celestis
    February 26, 2012 @ 3:24 am

    I can't wait! I adore the NAs!

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  31. Dr. Happypants
    February 26, 2012 @ 11:15 am

    It's a pity you can't do them all; I'd be interested to see what you think of "Falls the Shadow", which I'm rather fond of in its excessive way, or of "The Pit", which I'm…not, but which has had a surprising influence.

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  32. Zapruder 313
    February 26, 2012 @ 12:47 pm

    I'd just like to add my voice to that of Dr Happypants. The New Adventures were explicitly the continuation of the original TV series, and as such, I'd love to hear your views on them all. Missing any out would feel to me like missing out a Tom Baker TV serial, just because there were so many of them.

    I completely understand your not doing all the "spin-off" media, but the New Adventures weren't spin-offs: they were New Doctor Who, just as much as, if not more than, the BBC Wales revival.

    Is it too late to change your mind? My hard copy of the Sylvester McCoy volume will always feel incomplete otherwise!

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  33. Andrew Hickey
    February 26, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

    But if the New Adventures count, then so do at least the McGann books, and the McGann audios prior to the start of the Welsh series. And arguably the DWM comic strips.

    While I prefer the books and audios to the post-2005 series, this blog has always been focussed on the TV series – and if nothing else, the NAs had a very limited audience and are out of print.

    (I would be interested to see at least a little bit of coverage of the spinoffery – Bernice Summerfield, Iris Wildthyme and especially Faction Paradox – though.)

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  34. Elizabeth Sandifer
    February 26, 2012 @ 12:59 pm

    I intend to add a substantial number of NAs in for the book. But in the end… book posts get far fewer readers, are more time consuming to write, and would take up as much time to cover both lines in full as the entire first twenty-six years of the series will. I'm wary of the loss of readership involved in that long a dip into something that there's less interest in. I agree that the novels are vital, hence covering them, which other overviews haven't done at all. And I'd like someday to go fill all the gaps, but I don't think the first pass (or even the second) is where to do it. Maybe once I reach the end of the blog (which I plan to be when it catches up to the present – the blog won't cover new episodes as they air, simply because I don't think what I do works without the lens of history) I'll go back and do the rest.

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  35. Andrew Hickey
    February 26, 2012 @ 1:07 pm

    It's a shame the book posts get less traffic, as I think those are where your methods work best – the whole looking at the past from the lens of a slightly less past past thing works very well.

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  36. Zapruder 313
    February 26, 2012 @ 1:49 pm

    So long as I can look forward to reading "Philip Sandifer on the Complete New Adventures range" one day, that is surely enough to hope for! Completely understand that it might not be on the first or even second pass, but being able to look forward to it "one day" is a very acceptable reply!

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  37. WGPJosh
    February 26, 2012 @ 8:03 pm

    Great article as usual, Phil! Figured this'd be an important post.

    Hm…I have a bit to say about the whole "small man against the universe" thing, but seems I addressed most of it in my needlessly tardy "Castrovalva" response, so, if I may be a bit presumptuous I'd direct curious fellow commenters there?

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  38. Anton B
    February 27, 2012 @ 9:41 am

    'The Invisibles is guaranteed a Pop Between Realities.'
    punches air

    'Your example of The Prisoner seems an odd one, since at the end the main character precisely finds out that he's part of the system.'

    Hmm. You're right there. I'll have to re-read Phillip's and your take on ihe Prisoner. But I think my point is he at least thinks he's trying to escape – The clue is in the title. Come to think of it of course that's exactly what Moffat is threatening to deal with in his Adamsesque 'Doctor Who is the answer to 'what is the ultimate question?'' arc for next season.

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  39. Anton B
    February 27, 2012 @ 9:47 am

    See that fan who doesn't think anything after the unaired pilot of Unearthly Child is canon? That's me that is.

    Seriously, I subscribe to the everything except Noddy is part of the Whoniverse and I'm even willing to include him if someone writes a decent story. As the Brig so memorably put it – 'The Doctor, splendid chaps…all of them!'

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  40. Anton B
    February 27, 2012 @ 9:54 am

    Bah! Andrew Sorry I missed that post from Morrison. Any chance of posting a lengthy quote or two? Always enjoy your stuff btw so I'll be checking out your intriguing sounding DCU/Who post. Also that teatime brutality tumblr site.

    Thanks

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  41. Andrew Hickey
    February 27, 2012 @ 10:07 am

    Sorry, Anton, I don't have a copy of the post. It was a long, rambling thing talking about the Watchmen film (he liked it), the comics blog site The Mindless Ones (he liked it) and the project he was doing with Deepak Chopra's son for Richard Branson at the time. And in among this he mentioned the similarity of Final Crisis and the end of NuWho Series 4 as an example of his 'tapped into the zeitgeist' stuff. He didn't say more than a sentence or two on that.

    (Thanks for the nice comments about my own writing, BTW. I think I've been off-form for a few months, myself…)

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  42. Wm Keith
    March 1, 2012 @ 12:08 am

    You might consider adding "Nightshade" by Mark Gatiss, primarily because it is the only one of the NAs formerly published on the BBC website and thus available for reading through the Wayback Machine not already on your list.

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  43. John Seavey
    April 21, 2012 @ 3:48 pm

    …and here I always thought the correct one-word description of AHistory was "Bless…"

    For the record, I am now officially arguing that the current TV series is not, in any meaningful way, a continuation of the classic TV series. It is a continuation of the Virgin New Adventures. (Inspired by Phil, I'm working on a book on the subject…)

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  44. matt
    March 8, 2013 @ 6:28 am

    It's only fifty-odd weeks after this was posted…

    But if you still have a cache, I'd be delighted to own one. It'd go alongside the Virgin edition and the three from MNP.

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