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Elizabeth Sandifer

Elizabeth Sandifer created Eruditorum Press. She’s not really sure why she did that, and she apologizes for the inconvenience. She currently writes Last War in Albion, a history of the magical war between Alan Moore and Grant Morrison. She used to write TARDIS Eruditorum, a history of Britain told through the lens of a ropey sci-fi series. She also wrote Neoreaction a Basilisk, writes comics these days, and has ADHD so will probably just randomly write some other shit sooner or later.Support Elizabeth on Patreon.

21 Comments

  1. BerserkRL
    January 25, 2014 @ 12:28 am

    Are the two options mutually exclusive?

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  2. Marionette
    January 25, 2014 @ 1:34 am

    So would the stuff you did under this Patreon system then be published in book form? Because I can see where a lot of people wouldn't be keen on paying for the same material twice, and since the books tend to be more polished and have extra bits, you'd end up with a lot of people "waiting for the trade".

    Consider also that the blog is a big advertisement for the books, so sticking up a big pay wall would also hurt book sales.

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  3. Julian
    January 25, 2014 @ 2:45 am

    There could be a middle ground – Kickstarters for the 'big' things (Albion, etc.) but perhaps something as innocuous as a 'Donate' button in lieu of the Patreon system. It still allows those who regularly read the blog to be able to contribute if we feel like it, without a 'system' to subscribe to.

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  4. jane
    January 25, 2014 @ 5:23 am

    I wouldn't think the Patreon system would function as a pay wall, just another opportunity to support a great writer. And while contributing "twice" for content isn't likely to fly, incremental funding for the blog might be a more affordable way for those who aren't buying the books in the first place to show their appreciation.

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  5. Eric Rosenfield
    January 25, 2014 @ 5:43 am

    Why Patreon and not Subbable? I would be very interested in how a support funding thing would work out and would happily support you.

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  6. elvwood
    January 25, 2014 @ 7:12 am

    I don't really feel I have the right to comment. Until my circumstances change, I will be buying the Eruditorum books and that's it. Good luck with whatever you decide, though! (Still shocked about the Wonder Woman Kickstarter.)

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  7. Elizabeth Sandifer
    January 25, 2014 @ 8:54 am

    Indeed – I would not pay wall most content. Some content might go Patreon-exclusive, but likely only if it were a project that the Patreon crowd supported but that didn't serialize well.

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  8. Andrew Hickey
    January 25, 2014 @ 9:18 am

    I'd be more likely to take part in single-project Kickstarters than in an ongoing thing like Patreon, but I don't think there's a particular reason why you couldn't do both.

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  9. Nyq Only
    January 25, 2014 @ 10:23 am

    I was away living in a tent for a week sans technology except my Kindle. I read the Wonder Woman book and enjoyed it immensely. Now I wouldn't have bought that book probably if it wasn't for enjoying your writing on the blog 🙂 – but it was also great to read stuff that I hadn't read on the blog. Reading on a blog isn't the same as reading in a book – indeed I tried to talk myself into not reading the Last War in Albion entries on the blog and read them in a big hit later [didn't work – I read them avidly anyway].
    Anyway, my point is releasing writing in different media and using different payment models is probably wise. The blog brings people in and those people go onto to buy stuff.

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  10. Eric Gimlin
    January 25, 2014 @ 3:23 pm

    I can only speak for myself, I'm much more likely to support a Kickstarter than the Patreon model. I'm quite happy to support your work when I can- my sponsored essay started from "Can I afford to support Doctor Sandifer in this manner", and only once I determined I could did I start thinking about what I wanted an essay on. I've also bought all the Last War chapbooks as they came out, and the Wonder Woman book. But I have an ingrained aversion to any sort of recurring payment for entertainment. I suspect that makes it more difficult for you, since you presumably want to set up a semi-steady income flow if possible.

    Does Pateron have something in place for 1-time payments? I am far from adverse from throwing you a few bucks ahead of time for promised blog content, it's the whole automatic/ recurring payment thing that really doesn't sit well with me.

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  11. Josiah Rowe
    January 25, 2014 @ 3:51 pm

    Would a Last War in Albion book be likely to include the images? I know that their absence from the ebooks has been a barrier to me purchasing them, as in that particular case I feel that a discussion of comics without any images to provide context is unfortunately lacking. I'd be quite willing to support a Last War in Albion Kickstarter if the published work contained the illustrations used in the blog, but I'd hesitate if it were like the ebooks.

    As for Patreon, I could probably chip in a small regular donation if that's the route you prefer.

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  12. Elizabeth Sandifer
    January 25, 2014 @ 3:52 pm

    It would include a balance – more images than nothing (or than Wonder Woman), fewer than the blog posts themselves (where I have no qualms about using an image for little more than a gag).

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  13. TG
    January 25, 2014 @ 7:23 pm

    So Patreon is a sort of subscription system? That seems viable, and fair. I could go for the model you outline.

    This is a good direction for you, and others, to move in. I do think we all need to get over the idea of getting everything for free on the internet. Those of us over the age of 35 should remember that back in the late 20th century, when we wanted to read interesting things, we usually paid to do so.

    I know this makes me horrible retrograde, even reactionary, to many. But under that model, lots of talented and creative people were able to make livings being talented and creative. If we hollow this out any further, there won't be much out there worth reading, even for free.

    Sorry, didn't mean to start ranting. I like the Patreon idea.

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  14. encyclops
    January 25, 2014 @ 10:00 pm

    Count me under more likely to Kickstart than Patreon. From a purely selfish point of view, I find that the idea of supporting specific projects I personally find interesting appeals to me more than paying for everything (including the stuff that for various reasons I don't read). In theory I'd be able to vote as a subscriber, but unless I were in the majority it wouldn't make any difference — I'd still presumably be paying for content that I wouldn't want, just in hopes that you'd eventually get around to something I found interesting.

    For example, I don't read the Torchwood entries because I plan to watch it someday and would rather not be spoiled; I don't read many of the SJA entries because my interest is low (I'll probably watch some sooner or later, but there's a lot queued up ahead of them); and I don't read many of the Albion entries because the Morrison/Moore beef is starting to interfere with my ability to enjoy their work for what it is (I know there's more to what you're doing, but yeah). I certainly think all three of those threads are worthwhile and when I dip in I know you're doing an admirable job with them, but in the weeks they dominate the blog I don't end up reading much of it, for reasons unrelated to its quality.

    Hope that's helpful, and that the academic work situation turns around! Because that is some fucked up shit right there.

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  15. Simon Simmons
    January 26, 2014 @ 3:36 am

    Kick starter for me. I'm interested in reading the whole Alan Moore project as a hard copy, and see this as a pre-order.

    The alternative seems as if I would visit the Eruditorum because I'd paid for it, not because I wanted to !

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  16. Dave
    January 26, 2014 @ 12:45 pm

    I'd probably be more likely to go in for Kickstarters (lower levels, as I have in the past), as a student without a regular source of income. But then, I'm part of the segment of your readership that's least likely to be able to give you money at all, so my tendencies might not have the most bearing on the right decision. On a side note, fuck adjunct precarity.

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  17. Unknown
    January 26, 2014 @ 6:27 pm

    Whichever method results in the full-length David Whitaker biography I (and at least 14 other people worldwide) have been hoping for.

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  18. elvwood
    January 26, 2014 @ 11:36 pm

    Unconnected, but I just wanted to say that a very good friend of mine – Jo Roberts – has just won a silver award from the National Jewish Book Council for her book Contested Land, Contested Memory, and also gets a good review from the Electronic Intifada. Quite a balance to strike!

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  19. Daru
    January 27, 2014 @ 1:03 am

    Still sorry to hear what happened with your Wonder Woman money, shocking.

    I am working my way through buying your books and have the Hartnell book on its way to me. I totally want to support your projects as I love your work and the community here (even if I don't always have time to comment!) I think I could manage an occasional small amount for extra content and for input into that. Sounds interesting.

    Somehow in my head I have taken the choice to not read the weekly war in Albion posts as I would love to read them in one big book and really enjoy it. Keep it all up and I hope that you do find a way of surviving financially through all of this.

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  20. Kit Power
    January 27, 2014 @ 2:23 am

    Kickstarter funding works best for me. Incidentally, I always buy 'Last War' as soon as it goes live, and one consequence of this is that I don't read the blog entries, because I like to read it as a 'chapter' in one or two sittings. I may or may not be alone in that, but it does impact on my viewing and commenting on the blog.

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  21. ferret
    January 27, 2014 @ 12:58 pm

    make that 15

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