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Jack Graham writes and podcasts about culture and politics from a Gothic Marxist-Humanist perspective. He co-hosts the I Don't Speak German podcast with Daniel Harper. Support Jack on Patreon.

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  1. Richard Pilbeam
    March 22, 2011 @ 8:31 am

    I may actually hate this one more than "The Unquiet Dead". At least I didn't feel the need to fast-forward that one less than a minute in.

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  2. Richie again
    March 22, 2011 @ 8:54 am

    I mean, there was a lot I wanted to say about this in the discussion thread, but it was bound to break the code of conduct.

    Is there any point in watching Season 6?

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  3. JohnGeoffrion
    March 22, 2011 @ 8:59 am

    Where was your indignant essay decrying the toilet humor, boob jokes, homophobia, and wank jokes in Moff's first Red Nose Day script in 1999? (hint: It's got three settings!)

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  4. Jack Graham
    March 22, 2011 @ 10:30 am

    Richie:

    There is no Code of Conduct here. That's fundamentally why this place exists.

    As for Season 6? Well, I'd love to just ignore it. I did actually ignore Season 5 for ages before weakening.

    John:

    From my dim memory of 'Curse of Fatal', I don't think it had anything remotely as bad as the creepy voyeurism material we got a few days ago.

    And, just to be clear: I don't have a problem with toilet/wank humour per se.

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  5. Richard Pilbeam
    March 22, 2011 @ 10:30 am

    I've actually never seen it. It's on YouTube somewhere, isn't it? Sod it, I've got nothing better to do.

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  6. Richard Pilbeam
    March 22, 2011 @ 10:58 am

    Just seen "Curse of Fatal Death" for the first time. It… actually works better as a parody of Moffat's own work than anything else, despite predating his run by over a decade.

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  7. John
    March 25, 2011 @ 10:07 am

    (Now that I've seen it…) Sorry, I still don't see why I should take this any more seriously than "Dimensions In Time" or "Curse of Fatal Death," except that Space/Time has the current cast and the others were done during the interregnum. If CoFD starred Sylvester, Sophie and Anthony instead of Rowan, Julia & Jonathan, would you have been as forgiving?

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  8. Jack Graham
    March 25, 2011 @ 12:58 pm

    To be honest, my memory of 'Curse of Fatal Death' is very poor. And I've honestly never seen 'Dimensions in Time'.

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  9. Jack Graham
    March 25, 2011 @ 1:01 pm

    You see, it isn't silliness or crudeness I have a problem with. My issue with 'Space'/'Time' is the creepy, lechy mysoginy.

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  10. JohnGeoffrion
    March 27, 2011 @ 6:50 pm

    Fatal Death and Dimensions are all on YouTube.

    I see very little substantive difference between the three, except that Space/Time features the current cast. Perhaps the fake cast of CoFD serves as a distancing element so we don't take the content seriously. Otherwise one might consider Emma losing sexual interest once the Doctor regenerates into a woman as jokey homophobia. But it's Blackadder and Saff, so it's all a larf, innit? (For the record, as a gay man, I'm not offended by it)

    And the obvious aging of the regular cast of Dimensions in Time is apparently an intentional distancing element from just how unspeakably awful it is 😉

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  11. Richard Pilbeam
    March 28, 2011 @ 9:53 pm

    The thing about Space/Time is that it features the current cast AND it's written by the showrunner AND it's a "mini-episode" rather than a stand-alone sketch per se. So the way Moffat portrays Amy in it, even though it's (allegedly) "funny", is clearly an extension of how he sees the character.

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