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Elizabeth Sandifer

Elizabeth Sandifer created Eruditorum Press. She’s not really sure why she did that, and she apologizes for the inconvenience. She currently writes Last War in Albion, a history of the magical war between Alan Moore and Grant Morrison. She used to write TARDIS Eruditorum, a history of Britain told through the lens of a ropey sci-fi series. She also wrote Neoreaction a Basilisk, writes comics these days, and has ADHD so will probably just randomly write some other shit sooner or later. Support Elizabeth on Patreon.

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  1. Sean Dillon
    July 22, 2024 @ 1:12 am

    My brother’s grunge fandom obligates me to give a thumbs up to the caption.

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  2. Jarl
    July 22, 2024 @ 5:54 am

    Not pleased they straightwashed Tesla tbh

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  3. William Shaw
    July 22, 2024 @ 8:27 am

    Speaking of great creatives whose careers intersect with Dr Who, I was surprised that Nida Manzoor’s direction didn’t get any coverage here. I don’t remember it being especially flashy, but what she did after Dr Who was absolutely stunning, and clearly (in the case of Polite Society) in a broadly similar vein.

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  4. Aristide Twain
    July 22, 2024 @ 9:15 am

    “Things like The Shakespeare Code and Robot of Sherwood aren’t favorites, but they’re perfectly adequate; nobody’s picking them as the weakest episodes of their seasons, certainly.”

    Oh aren’t they? I speak not of ‘Robot of Sherwood’, which I’ve always quite liked, but ‘Shakespeare Code’ is simply dreadful — vapid to the point of insulting its audience, as though laughing at the idea that it might have a point. In a season that also has ’42’ and ‘The Lazarus Experiment’ it’s got some hot competition for the bottom drawer, but both of these are at least trying to give Martha material besides the surface-level ‘heh, heh, she thinks the Doctor’s a bit of a dish but he’s mooning about Rose and she keeps being disappointed’ joke; and formally, ’42’ is a failed experiment because Chibnall is not capable of successful experiments, but it is, still, an interesting experiment. ‘The Shakespeare Code’ is just… nothing.

    Anyway, I’m not sure what you’re counting as the “three swings” the Chibnall era takes at the celebrity historical. “Rosa”, “Nikola Tesla”, “The Haunting of the Villa Diodati”, I guess? But surely “War of the Sontarans” is also a swing, albeit a swing-and-a-miss, with its hollow hagiography of Mary Seacole. (More arguable are “Legend of the Sea Devils” with Madam Ching, and “Spyfall” as a two-in-one with Ada Lovelace and Noor Inayat Khan, but I’d still be inclined to count them as ultimately-fairly-conservative variations-on-a-theme. Certainly the Doctor’s excited expository babbles going OMGGG IT’S [HISTORICAL FIGURE]!!! in both are indistinguishable from the equivalent beat in a conventional celeb historical.)

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    • Einarr
      July 22, 2024 @ 12:46 pm

      Re the three swings at the celebrity historical… The Witchfinders, Nikola Tesla, and Haunting of Villa Diodati? Given the stipulation that Chibnall didn’t write any of them, which can hardly apply to “Rosa”.

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      • Einarr
        July 22, 2024 @ 12:49 pm

        Agreed with you in general about the other variations on the theme, though: Rosa, Spyfall, War of the Sontarans, Legend of the Sea Devils, and arguably the Joseph Williamson segments of Flux although that’s stretching the case somewhat.

        Suddenly the wafer-thin treatment of Queen Nefertiti in “Dinosaurs on a Spaceship” looks a bit like a forerunner of how he will tackle e.g. Madame Ching, Mary Seacole, Ada Lovelace and Noor Inayat Khan, doesn’t it? Shallow, perfunctory, “gee whiz you were awesome you were, please now hold this plot related lever and do very little else of importance or symbolic value in 45 minutes”.

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      • Aristide Twain
        July 22, 2024 @ 6:07 pm

        I… don’t know why I forgot “The Witchfinders” given El mentions King James in the review. But really now, “Rosa” is the celebrity historical of the Chibnall era if anything is!

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        • Einarr
          July 23, 2024 @ 12:55 pm

          On the flipside, it’s definitely not going to be in the list of ones our good host can describe as “closest to working”…

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  5. Riggio
    July 22, 2024 @ 3:12 pm

    I’ve kept thinking about this because you’re very good at inspiring your readers to think about the interesting ideas that flow out of your keyboard when writing about Doctor Who. I don’t know if you’re also thinking of something like this, but the fact that last entry reflected on Doctor Who’s metaphysics of time instead of talking about the content of that tortuously dull episode can reveal what may be the essence of the Chibnall years and why his approach to Doctor Who fails so miserably.

    First, I don’t think that the eventual compilation of posts into the Chibnall/Whittaker Era volume of TARDIS Eruditorum can be complete without discussing his first appearance in Doctor Who. I’m not talking about his first episodes in the Davies 1.0 era: I mean the fan panel in 1986 where he told off Pip and Jane Baker.

    Pip and Jane were ultimately caught up in a moment of contradicting themselves. They first talked about how they wanted to write a serious-looking sci-fi adventure because that was what Doctor Who offered, but when challenged about some of the parts of Terror of the Vervoids that didn’t make a lot of sense or coherence, they just wrote it off as a silly children’s show that didn’t really matter. Chibnall very angrily called them out on it, as they deserved. It made me think, when he was first announced as Moffat’s successor, that the Chibnall years would be a rather self-serious, but quality-focussed period of the show (his scripts may have been pretty functional over complex, but he could have been a good curator). And we were all very disappointed.

    Because when Chibnall was entirely in charge of the whole show, he didn’t seem interested in any of the deeper possibilities of storytelling and character development in the show. As you say, thematic techniques like mirroring Edison’s business of intellectual piracy with the methods of the invading monsters amplifies the intensity of the story by having it play across multiple dimensions of thought at once. But Chibnall’s default approach is to make one-dimensional Doctor Who stories. He thinks that the show is serious, but that the show’s seriousness comes only from its content itself: that we should care about The Battle of Registrars and Comptrollers because it’s on Doctor Who. His problem with Pip and Jane was that they revealed that they didn’t even care this much: they didn’t even really care about Doctor Who.

    But Doctor Who is more than the TV show called Doctor Who because of how flexible it can be telling complex, multilayered stories about meaningful themes and characters. That’s what almost every other creator on the show (and in the creative arts generally) actually understands.

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  6. Chris
    July 22, 2024 @ 4:22 pm

    For whatever reason (acceptable or not), celebrity historicals are not allowed to tear down someone’s legacy. Probably either fear of a lawsuit from descendants or just plain being too cowardly to ruffle the feathers of some fans. I may not like it, but I understand.

    But Doctor Who is certainly allowed to tear down a completely fictional alien character. We see that all the time. This episode would be much better if instead of Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla it were about alien analogues. Let’s call them, I dunno, Masedi and Olates just for funs. Now there’s complete freedom to say whatever you want about them. And you can even get some historical facts wrong (or just alter them in service of the story) and it’s not going to light up the message boards in the same way. But this can’t be done under Chibnall, as demonstrated by the toothless take on the Amazon analogue.

    I used to be part of the BBC’s audience feedback program. They’d send out a survey after each episode and ask us for a rating and what worked and what didn’t. Under Chibnall, my responses started with “I am cautiously optimistic he’ll be better than before” and eventually became “another Chibnall episode, doing Chibnall things that I am powerless to stop.” It was probably somewhere around this episode that I dropped out of the program altogether. It was just too depressing to report the same issues over and over again.

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    • Christopher Brown
      July 22, 2024 @ 6:12 pm

      Honestly, you’ve hit the nail on the head on why I prefer Doctor Who when it engages in outright fantasy/historical fantasy/science fiction than with “real” history (and why withdrawing from Earth-based storytelling was a good move from 1976-1981 at least). Doctor Who can’t overthrow Thatcher directly but it can defeat Helen A, and as I believe the Eruditorum has demonstrated quite thoroughly, the latter is far more satisfying as a narrative and as a comment on real life.

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  7. Christopher Brown
    July 22, 2024 @ 4:58 pm

    If Vincent and the Doctor is overrated, then it’s for good reason. 😛 But regarding the celebrity historical in general: absolutely.

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  8. John
    July 22, 2024 @ 5:21 pm

    I feel you’ve really hit the nail on the head here – Chibnall’s Who as a collection of spare parts aiming to be nothing more than what the general idea of what Doctor Who is without any real direction or spark. His whole run is basically aiming to be Doctor Who as it works when described by surface-level fandom tweets: as a silly goofy sci-fi show that shows you a lot of cool different sights and has a twee lead performance. When you don’t have a direction to take the series in once you actually start writing, you end up spitting out derivative stories about how “everything you know is going to change” before saying “uh The Doctor was adopted I guess. That’s all.”

    The only explanation that actually makes sense to me as to why Chibnall’s Who is so bad in so many different ways is that he didn’t believe the show needed to be anything more than his idea of it to succeed. Which is a shame. Obviously, the series doesn’t provide a social good just for existing (like you describe) (and even if us fans would really like it to), but when it does try, as you describe, it’s capable of giving us Remembrance of the Daleks, City of Deaths, and Dot and Bubbles. The fact that Chibnall, in his apparently lifelong fandom, never, ever saw it that way is a real shame.

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    • Christopher Brown
      July 22, 2024 @ 6:13 pm

      If only “the Doctor was adopted I guess” had been all. If only.

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  9. BG Hilton
    July 22, 2024 @ 7:41 pm

    I was really disappointed at how little it got into just how fucking weird Tesla was. This is my problem with the celebrity historical, there’s rarely much effort put into characterisation. Honestly, Pertwee’s name-dropping was probably the best way to do ‘the Doctor meets historical celebrities.’

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  10. Aardvark
    July 23, 2024 @ 6:24 am

    I’m not sure if it is accidentally a lens into British culture at the time precisely because it is so naff. We were governed by idiots, if you said anything less than positive about Brexit on social media you got shouted down, the BBC had a target on it’s back from both the right and the left. It must have been far too easy to rest on casting Jodie with a multiracial crew and not actually get the scripts to be any good. It felt like Chibnall was too concerned with the locations, lenses and practical stuff. That there was this whole attempt to be comparable to prestige serious tv. By then I was watching like I’d almost become like a supporter of a sports franchise with a losing record. Because it’s force of habit/ brand loyalty. El gets respect for continuing to write about the show during the period. If I were less broke I’d break my rule of avoiding Patreon & make it the first thing I gave money. Sorry about that & thanks for still publishing this blog.

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  11. Jesse
    July 25, 2024 @ 9:16 pm

    Surely the best celebrity historical is the one with Richard Nixon.

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    • Przemek
      July 28, 2024 @ 1:46 pm

      Yes, but it’s more of a deconstruction/parody of that subgenre than a true example.

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    • Toby
      July 29, 2024 @ 10:13 am

      I’ve literally never thought about The Impossible Astronaut/ Day of the Moon being a celebrity historical but thinking about it it’s kind of obvious. I suppose it highlights the problem with the celebrity historical – TIA/DotM are episodes with big ideas and an interesting plot, and they just so happen to feature Nixon, while The Unquiet Dead or Shakespeare Code leads with “what if the Doctor met X!” and works backwards from there. It can work when that celebrity comes with a genre baked in (“Doctor Who does an Agatha Christie murder mystery” is a worthwhile idea on its own, and it’s fun to add Agatha Christie into the mix, so why not), but otherwise it’s just “I guess Queen Victoria met a werewolf”.

      I’m betting that El has already pointed all this out in a much more interesting way in an Eruditorum post that I’m forgetting.

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  12. Przemek
    July 28, 2024 @ 1:43 pm

    The concept of parallels/mirroring is quite simple, yes, but I personally never thought about it increasing “the moment to moment intensity of communication”. Thanks for that interesting observation and for the whole essay which was, as usual, fascinating to read.

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