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Elizabeth Sandifer

Elizabeth Sandifer created Eruditorum Press. She’s not really sure why she did that, and she apologizes for the inconvenience. She currently writes Last War in Albion, a history of the magical war between Alan Moore and Grant Morrison. She used to write TARDIS Eruditorum, a history of Britain told through the lens of a ropey sci-fi series. She also wrote Neoreaction a Basilisk, writes comics these days, and has ADHD so will probably just randomly write some other shit sooner or later. Support Elizabeth on Patreon.


  1. Jarl
    April 25, 2016 @ 9:22 am

    The Trystane/Sand Snakes thing had me WTFing out loud in front of the whole family. I think I worked it out, though. He’s painting the eye-stones, and this is after news of the death has reached Dorne, and shortly after his father implies his son’s absence. So, as I see it, the moment he heard what happened to his beloved, he boarded a ship so he could be present at the funeral and make the eye-stones for her, and the Snakes killed him before the ship departed. Meanwhile, through poor visual storytelling, the establishing shot either looks a lot like or else actually IS the establishing shot of the other ship arriving at King’s Landing, when really Trystane is in the harbor of Dorne. After news has come down about the Coup, the Snakes arrive to take him out, before the ship can depart.

    And as for the sand snakes and Elyria, the way I see it is we want the good storytelling, but we need the bad writing.


    • Goodluck
      April 25, 2016 @ 1:44 pm

      More patient and attentive people have done the hard work for me and pointed out that Trystane was on the same boat (with a distinctive faded orange mast with the red sun sigil) that Jamie sailed in on at the beginning of the episode.


  2. The Oncoming Hurricane
    April 25, 2016 @ 9:52 am

    Regarding the Trystane debacle, it’s dealt with on the show’s website as we can see in the pic here: http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Areo.jpg

    ‘Unable to set foot in the capital, Trystane remained on the ship, where he was ambushed and killed by two Sand Snakes’

    Except this creates a plothole so big it should swallow the show…these are the same two Sand Snakes that were present on the shore watching his boat leave. They teleported 200 fucking miles (or whatever the distance from Dorne to King’s Landing. You could have had other Sand Snakes as extras to resolve this problem, but no…you used the ones that it was impossible to be there for. Great job.


    • Matthew
      April 26, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

      And yet the behind the scenes stuff shows the opposite – Jamie sent Trystane back to Dorne, and presumably that’s where the Sand Snakes kill him. That makes, I don’t know, 10% more sense than what’s in the show. Still not great though.



      • Matthew
        April 26, 2016 @ 6:38 pm

        (OK, it’s Jaime, not Jamie. Never got used to that.)


    • SpaceSquid
      April 29, 2016 @ 7:04 am

      I’m not a naval expert, but my own head-canon has Obara and Tyene jump on a faster ship than Trystane’s pretty much immediately after we last saw them. It certainly seems plausible that there are more speedy vessels than the kind of luxurious ship you’d build for the heir to Dorne.

      None of which makes the scene less lazy or awkward. Still, at least it had the most vicious sight gag the show’s managed to date; points there, I guess.


  3. ScarvesandCelery
    April 25, 2016 @ 10:38 am

    Emmy award winning writing, people! This does raise one important question – what happened to Bronn? Presumably it’ll come up, but still.


    • ScarvesandCelery
      April 25, 2016 @ 10:39 am

      Captcha screwed – I meant to reply to the link to the clip in Jarl’s comment


    • The Oncoming Hurricane
      April 25, 2016 @ 10:46 am

      The new Arys Oakheart (please, no)


  4. glengarry
    April 25, 2016 @ 12:11 pm

    I wasn’t a fan of Conleth Hill’s work here, actually. Unless they are deliberately making him slowly transform into Maijin Buu as a result of sunstroke or whatever.


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